Clydesdale Media Podcast

Every day we take a breath from the busy workday to hang out with friends and talk about the World of Sports, Entertainment and specifically Crossfit.  Today we wrap up the Weekend of wild sports and specifically Rogue

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We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

That morning alarm clock rang early this

morning after the wild weekend of sports

we had.

We talked a lot about it last night,

but I got more to say.

I love the chase and the hunt,

and I set the pace when I'm running.

I always take what I want,

and I always give it one hundred.

Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.

Play the game like it's nothing.

I'm always thankful for something.

Don't take for granted, stay humble.

Now wake up!

It's time to look at the enemy.

Look in the mirror if he is no

friend to me.

what is going on everybody it is lunchtime

on a monday so what's going on i

uh i had my ct scan finally on

my sinuses today so just got to wait

for that to head on over to my

ent doctor uh so we can discuss what

the next steps are with my sinuses um

pretty quick and painless just laid on a

slab of metal got put well not metal

but then got put into the the big

cone of magnets had all that done and

i was telling carolyn and jamie that after

the show last night and they're like you

know you think with all the technology

that we've advanced in this world there'd

be a better way to take a picture

of like the inside of the human body

that isn't this big tube with magnets

circling around all the other technology

that's like been advanced in medical

science and around the world and in

computers and all of that stuff we still

we still have the big tube with the

magnets

That is extremely noisy, extremely loud,

and very, very uncomfortable.

Thank goodness I only had to go in

for my head.

I didn't have to go the whole way

in the tube, but man, wild.

Train all of CT scans are so

uncomfortable.

Yeah, but it's over.

I actually have to do a second one,

like November twenty fifth on my voice box

for the pulmonologist.

So had to do one today for the

ENT.

Had to have to do one the twenty

fifth for the pulmonologist.

I don't know why they couldn't combine

them into one.

They're so close.

Just inch me in the tube a little

bit further.

Get it all done in one foul swoop.

But I guess...

I guess it is for,

they get to charge me for both now,

right, I guess.

They don't run a BOGO deal on the

old CT scans.

So, got a lot of people here already.

Seven Easter's refugees.

He's here first because we have nowhere

else to go.

Well, I hope,

I hope you're here for other reasons, but,

you know, I get it.

Train Olive, Corey Leonard, Shanna Bunce,

Joseph Ramirez, Jody Lynn, and Vicky.

We got a lot of people in the

house already.

Craig Pasley and Denise Moore.

So what's going on?

um denise says do you have to do

die for the other scan no i don't

think either one of them are with contrast

um so it's really just really just a

basic ct scan i was really in and

out in like less than ten minutes maybe

it didn't seem very long anyway uh super

quick so but they're at two different

imaging centers so maybe that's it too um

i don't know

Joseph Ramirez,

where does Penn state go from here?

Um, I don't know, man.

I've really, it was really funny Saturday.

You know, they were here in Columbus.

Usually I'm like really anxious because I,

you know, if,

if they lose to Ohio state, I,

I hear about it for a week straight.

I hate that so much.

And then, uh,

this year i just didn't care like the

the penn state's so bad right now like

it just doesn't even matter and it

actually gave me a more relaxing saturday

i went to my nephews um he just

had a baby a couple months ago so

we hung out there got to see the

baby um do all that stuff it was

it was pretty good

So I'm not dwelling on every play of

a Penn State game,

which has been kind of relaxing.

And then I can focus all my attention

on the Chicago Bears,

who gave me six heart attacks yesterday in

two minutes.

Wow.

What a crazy, crazy day.

Missed last night's live,

but just finished watching.

Great show as always.

Thank you so much.

If you think CT bad,

try an MRI much, much longer.

Yeah,

I've had when I had my back surgeries,

I've had MRIs and those are like forty

five minutes to fifty minutes long.

That was bad.

And that was fully in the tube as

opposed to just my head in the tube.

I'd much rather do the CT than the

MRI.

I wasn't saying the technology thing from

a discomfort standpoint.

I was saying you would think with all

the advancements

the way to take a picture inside the

person you would think they'd come up with

something different but maybe there's no

need maybe that like they're just happy

with what they have and there's nobody out

there trying to solve a problem over that

so i don't know maybe

So I wanted to take this time to

just a huge shout out to Holly Dugan,

who is our stats and info person.

What she does for us is so unsung.

If you ever go to our videos after

the live,

um almost all of them are chaptered out

you can look at the bottom of the

screen and you um and you can see

all of the topics that we talk about

throughout a show she is responsible for

all of that she puts that in there

um i just copy and paste it into

the show notes and it automatically

populates into the youtube where you can

then if you just want to see a

topic we've talked about you can go

directly to that and that is all holly

And I thank her for that.

Last night during the show,

one person in the chat said,

wouldn't it be nice if we had a

chart that showed the CrossFit game season

for different types of athletes?

And I swear she didn't even go to

bed last night,

but she put this out on Instagram

overnight last night.

And so I want to just show you

what she has come up with.

Now,

it's hard to see unless I blow this

up, and I will blow it up.

But here's the master season.

It goes from the open to quarterfinals.

Talks about the rules for that.

Semifinals.

talks about who qualifies for that,

and then she lists out all of the

semifinals that are available in person.

So there's Legends, French Throwdown,

Magic City, Torian Pro,

the online semifinal, and the LATAM.

All the dates,

how many people they're taking,

and then how many people qualify.

So, well,

that doesn't have how many they're taking.

She has something like that.

It's coming soon.

And so she did that for every.

So here's just elite individuals and all

of the hit all the semifinals listed.

There we go.

She did it for teams.

There's the teams where they can qualify

for.

she even did it for adaptive even though

it's a very simple process for the

adaptive athletes oh that's the teens and

then there's the adaptive um she's

actually putting together a document for

us uh that actually show all the rules

for each semi-final um and

many people they are inviting the

invitation process if it is available on

their website or a document that she could

find um right now it's in a really

like archaic spreadsheet um but she's

trying to figure out a way to make

it pretty um but she's working on that

and those all of this came out of

questions from last night's show and here

we are

This morning,

we already have all these products she's

put out there and this spreadsheet that

you wouldn't even believe.

It takes, say, Syndicate Crown,

and the spreadsheet says how they're

inviting people to that event,

how many people are qualifying from that

event.

And everything.

It's just so much stuff.

And she deserves so much credit.

If you're not following her on Instagram,

go give her a follow.

It's at data wad.

She does so much for us.

Every time there's a competition this

weekend,

especially like all of the leaderboards

that come out on our website or on

our Instagram are from her.

She does all the leaderboards who won

every event top five, who,

And then the standings after each day,

she just, she's just incredible.

And I just want to give her her

kudos for doing all that because she

it gives us a presence that, um,

that we wouldn't have otherwise.

And she,

what I love the most is when I

go to like an athlete's page and I

see that she has changed that,

that athlete has shared our leaderboard

because of how Holly does it.

And it looks so good that she, um,

she just keeps, um,

doing this and they share them and she

tags everybody in that.

It's so cool.

Um,

I saw a ton of them being shared

this weekend and that's why we did it

initially.

We did that for legends a couple of

years ago and the athletes loved it.

Um,

and they just started sharing them and it

gave them something other than a

leaderboard to share something that was

pretty and that was formatted for

Instagram as opposed to going to

competition corner and trying to

screenshot it all.

So Jonathan,

she should keep it as a Google sheet.

And when you click on the comp,

it gives you the notes on the separate

sheet.

She's doing all of that stuff.

But she's not a Google person.

She's an Excel person.

So it's all in an Excel spreadsheet that

she's working on right now.

And if you didn't see her running

charts...

Let me see if I can find that

real quick.

Like the creative stuff she's done.

Let me do this one and share.

So if you guys didn't see this,

this is the top five at Rogue and

how their finishes went over the weekend

and where their placements were during

that event.

So you can see that Lucy Campbell and

Olivia Kerstetter started off low and then

had to bounce back and how it fluctuated

throughout the week.

These are the things she's putting

together.

She did this last night as well,

which is really crazy.

So I just love the effort she's putting

in and I could not appreciate her anymore.

I'm really pumped for all the stuff she's

putting out.

Wanted to take a second to give her

her due because most of the stuff,

and I know other people in the space

like Siobhan talk about his team and how

you don't have to tell them anything they

just do.

That is Holly.

I don't even have to ask her anything.

Now, if I do ask her something,

I usually get something within a few

hours.

But most of the time,

what she puts out is all her own

idea or she heard something on a show.

And so she's reacting to the audience or

the chat.

But yeah, she just does, which is really,

really awesome.

Yeah.

And then she shares it with me.

And what was crazy,

she put out so much overnight.

This morning she sends me a text

apologizing for putting out so much

content.

And I was like, wait a second.

Do not apologize.

Keep it coming.

You are awesome.

No need to apologize.

You do you,

and I am here to support every single

bit of it.

So...

wanted to to go back and talk about

a couple things from last night's show

that kind of stuck with me a little

bit and one is the innovations that rogue

brings every year you you can pick apart

different things if you want to

But this year,

what they did with the broadcast,

we've been talking for weeks before Rogue

launched about how Hamilton Road's

production of a CrossFit event has not

changed since twenty twelve.

It's been the same graphics,

the same storyboard getting into the event

and out of the event that that has

been there for for thirteen years.

And what I loved about what Rogue did

is they're always trying something new.

Now, you may not like what they're doing,

but they're trying different things.

And some of the innovations I thought were

spectacular.

Now,

whether they're affordable for another

production company to do like the CrossFit

Games or not,

I don't know whether the CrossFit Games

even watches what happened at Rogue to

take notes on that and try to do

something different.

I'm not even sure I'm confident in that.

But the three D graphics were awesome.

What it did for the dual made that

event so much more entertaining and so

much easier to understand.

Kudos to them using the cable cam or

the spider cam or whatever you want to

call it.

to go up and down the sides on

remote to follow the athletes up and down

the field of play using different angles,

zooming in, zooming out,

giving some different angles to the field

of play that we have not had ever

was huge.

The indoor run at the venue was fantastic.

It allowed you to experience a little bit

of what it was like to be there

in person,

seeing Vendor Village and having cameramen

all around the running path to see

different athletes at different times

instead of just like one person on a

golf cart in front of the lead runner.

um showing that for the entire time we

got different angles from different spaces

all around the running track that gave it

more of a story than just people on

a golf cart in front of the lead

person and they probably couldn't run a

golf cart in the middle of the the

indoor arena anyway but you get my point

at the crossfit games when there's running

events it's generally a golf cart or

a bicyclist out in front filming

everything from the lead.

All you're getting is the lead person.

This way we got people all throughout the

pack, which was very, very refreshing.

And you could tell that the director of

the production was going to say,

was trying to get every finish as people

came across the line.

they would watch the lead person come

through and start to look at them a

little bit,

but then flashed immediately to the next

person as they were crossing the line.

Did they get that perfect every time?

No,

but you could tell that the effort was

there to not just hang out on the

winner longer than it took for the second

person to come across the finish line.

So the innovations that they have come up

with,

The things that they try are awesome.

I know last night we talked about that

they gave away what they used to call

the tailgate show for free,

which was you could go on the website

and you could actually go picture and

picture up to four items,

four cameras that were in the arena and

show them all at the same time.

So you could have the cable,

what they called the cable view.

You could have the side view,

a ceiling cam.

You could have like an end zone wide

shot.

And then they had a leader cam.

And you could put all of those up

at the same time and get different angles

and see different things of the race all

at the same time.

And in this day and age where people

are watching multiple screens to watch

events, I found that to be very,

very rewarding.

Now,

Jamie argues that she would never go to

a website when it's available on YouTube.

And I know that there are people addicted

to the chats in YouTube and would never

leave that to go to maybe an innovation

like this.

But I, on the other hand,

would rather see the race so I can

look at it and talk about it the

next day and have all of those different

angles.

And for me,

it's worth going to the website to do

that.

What they do that is best case scenario

is they offer both.

It is live on YouTube for those people

who want to go to YouTube and to

want to be in the chat.

It is also available on the website with

all the camera angles and all of the

bells and whistles that you get there.

And so people can choose which way they

want to watch the event.

I love the innovation of the multiple

cameras and that you get to direct what

you want to see.

To me, that is well worth it.

Even when it was twenty five dollars for

the weekend,

I paid it every single year because it

allowed me to see the whole field much,

much better.

But I get it.

I get that people are addicted to being

in the chats and talking about the events

as it goes on.

I know that's part of the community

aspect.

So what was really cool is that Rogue

offered both.

So.

So what I want to say about that,

because there is this other entity,

and as CrossFit would say right now,

heading into my smear campaign,

there's this other entity, WFP,

that keeps saying they want to be

innovating.

They want to do these things.

but they're doing it in a way where

it's either all or nothing.

And they may have good reasons why that

is.

They may have perfectly fine explanations

why they can't be on YouTube.

And I've said on here that I think

it's because they're courting an online

streaming service and the online streaming

service wants to know what the numbers

would be straight to something other than

YouTube.

So they cannot taint the numbers by using

YouTube.

regardless it's all or nothing and what's

happening with what's happening with them

is they're losing interest in that because

it's rip off the band-aid we're going all

the way over here and you're gonna like

it and then there are people that are

just addicted to being in the chat who

do not like it so

what i'll say about that like it's not

a smear campaign it's just your business

plan and your business plan was to make

a mass change and that mass change meant

you're switching everybody from one way to

another and there are people that are

going to uh ride against that so um

what is wfp jody uh joseph says it

uh some bush league thing

Yeah.

It's a league that I hope was watching

Rogue and saw how they did things and

maybe will change their outlook as to how

to cover an event.

Last night I was talking about the

lighting.

WFP is so into their lighting,

yet Rogue takes their own lighting rig as

well to an event.

And what they had last night or this

weekend was off the chain.

It was so crisp around the edges.

You could see every lane plain as day.

You could see the finish line the whole

way across.

There were no shadows or darkness to it.

And it made it a very awesome viewing

experience for the spectator at home.

But it also had like different colored

lights.

It had different things going on that I

hope that the WFP looked at and said,

that's what we have to be more like,

not having an event in the shadows.

I don't know what that – and I

like what they're trying to do,

and I like that they have the spotlights

coming down the field telling the story,

but there's just misses along the way that

are making it easy to pick on them

about.

Jonathan,

I like that WFP is sticking to their

own thing and doing whatever the F they

want.

It's their money, their thing.

They can do whatever they want.

It doesn't mean that I don't have opinions

about it.

I think the people that built the Titanic

were very adamant about the way they built

that ship.

And they stuck to their guns and they

wanted to make the cross ocean voyage.

And we know the end of that.

Sticking to your guns doesn't always mean

you're going to be successful.

That's the point I'm trying to make.

there have been a lot of people who

stuck to the guns and were successful so

we have one year to look at and

see how we're not even a full year

through but i here's the thing between

tour stop one and tour stop two they

were so inactive and i made comments about

that and got from everybody about it but

here we are between tour stop two and

the championship and you're not seeing any

content from them again it's like they all

just stopped

How do you keep interest in a league

that's going the whole year long when you

stop activity coming out from your entity

for months at a time when there's a

dead period or a lull in the sport

itself?

It makes no sense.

And they're doing it again.

But it's their money.

It's their league.

They can do it how they want to

do it.

a horrible,

horrible business plan when people are

starving and starving for content because

there were, there were weeks before rogue,

like we had actually until crash,

like from the end of water Palooza,

SoCal to crash, nothing.

Then we had Crash and Rogue.

Now we're going to have nothing until

Copenhagen.

I hope to God they put out some

stuff promoting this or promoting the

athletes because right now there's like

nothing going on.

And what are the media going to talk

about?

But I think that the WFP doesn't want

the media to talk about them because

they're afraid what they're going to say.

So I don't know.

We'll see.

Wayne Short,

the fate of the WP will be decided

by the athletes.

If they don't support it,

the community's opinions don't matter.

I know, but I run a talk show,

so we're about opinions.

So my opinions may not matter,

but that's what we do.

Jonathan Ortega,

probably because their socials person is

at Rogue doing content for other outlets.

There you go.

That's their priority.

And it's not just social, Jonathan.

It's all these vignettes that were

supposed to come.

It was the promotion of the athletes like

we've never seen before that was supposed

to come.

And I haven't seen any of that.

It's been a little bit here.

It's been a little bit like an off

the clock with Emma tall.

Um,

I think we got a second off the

clock with somebody that's not promoting

the athletes like they promised.

I don't.

And now I just,

I think they have a huge PR problem

and because people are saying there's too

many things going on.

Um,

And maybe they're going to have to

prioritize one over the other.

And it sounds like from a lot of

people,

whether or that it's going to be the

CrossFit game season as opposed to WFP.

So I just think they have a huge

PR problem.

And that's when I would be out there

attacking with content and promoting the

athletes.

So Dave Anderson,

where will row go next year?

So I have no inside information on this,

but what I heard Katie say on Coffee

Pods and WODs was talking about how

they're expanding Rogue Columbus to go

from four buildings here in Columbus,

because that's where I live.

They have four buildings across the city.

One of those buildings is a big major

HQ,

which they have built and expanded once

already.

Katie said their plans are to expand it

again to consolidate down to one building

again.

And what I heard in the way she

said it was,

I think she'd like to have it in

Columbus next year to show off the new

expanded Rogue.

Now,

I might be reading more into that than

was there,

but that is how I heard it from

her.

And I'm not trying to start a rumor

because she definitely did not say where

they're going.

And on Coffee Pods and WOD,

she said they were going to be done

in Scotland this year and not come back.

And then on Savon over the weekend,

she kind of walked that back a tick

and said that most likely they're not

going to be in Scotland next year.

But she didn't want to talk about the

future until she was done with the

weekend.

So I guess we'll see what happens with

all of that.

But I, for one,

would be ecstatic if they came back to

Columbus.

Just makes my life way easier to cover

it because I can do it from the

comfort of my own bed.

And I loved it when it was there

in twenty nineteen.

And they were a semifinal that qualified

people to the games.

That was one of the.

most fun competitions i've ever been to

and it was like a huge party um

when they built the outdoor venue um and

there was an outdoor vendor village that

was packed um it was just great and

i they never half-ass anything and if they

can bring money into my city then i

will be stoked for that

The other thing I wanted to just finish

up on is we talked last night in

our game, pencil, pen, or Sharpie.

The question was,

will Laura Horvat do the CrossFit game

season next year?

And most of the people said pencil.

My two co-hosts said pencil.

And I said pen.

And I said pen for this reason.

On one hand,

I know that Laura is upset with CrossFit

HQ.

But outside of the CrossFit Games,

Laura has pretty much dominated most of

every competition she's ever been in.

She has made it clear that she is

one of the two best female athletes in

the sport.

I think that her white whale is Tia.

And the only way I think she's going

to have a shot to take that whale

down and to beat Tia in a competition

that matters is to do the CrossFit Games

season.

So last year, even months ago,

I would have said it was a pencil

that that would happen.

But I'm really edging now towards Penn

because I think the only big

accomplishment that matters to Laura at

this point is to beat Tia.

If you look at Justin,

everybody said after Justin won the first

two years is that he did it after

Matt had left.

And if Matt were there,

Matt still would have won.

And there's all these whispers around.

Laura won the games the year that Tia

took off.

Laura has beat Tia at Rogue,

but she was coming off a pregnancy.

She probably wasn't a hundred percent.

And there's always the whispers.

I think Laura wants to go head to

head with Tia and beat her one time.

One time to cement her legacy.

as one of the two greatest female athletes

in the CrossFit space.

Because at this point, what else matters?

She has all the money.

She's won Rogue a handful of times.

I mean, she has millions of winnings now.

What is there left for her to accomplish?

It's to beat Tia.

Yeah.

It's not to win the games.

It's not to win Rogue.

It's to beat Tia.

And in order to do that,

she's going to have to go to the

place where Tia is to make that happen.

It's the only thing left.

It's the only thing left for her.

If she beats Tia full strength head to

head,

it's going to cement her as one of

the two greatest female athletes of all

time.

Agreed that she should,

but good luck beating Tia, Claire, Toomey,

or... Well, I didn't say it was easy.

But I bet if you asked Justin,

he would have preferred to beat Matt.

I don't know if he would say that

out loud to the press at this point

in his career,

but I'm betting if you asked him...

his feelings back in twenty one and twenty

two,

he would have hoped that he could have

beaten Matt to get his first title.

Frida says it's hard to tell when grieving

is involved,

the time needed is different for everyone.

I don't disagree with you at all.

And that's why I didn't go Sharpie either.

Like,

I don't think it's a done deal and

written in Sharpie.

I just think that looking at it,

when you look at greatness in sports,

When Michael Jordan was playing

basketball,

it meant something if you beat him.

And nobody did.

The only time people beat the Bulls is

when Jordan retired for two years and the

Rockets won.

And Akeem Olajuwon was like,

he won the title only because Michael

didn't play those years.

And that eats up at athletes.

That eats up at athletes.

If you are a champion athlete and you

are as competitive as Laura is,

you want to stick a stake in the

ground and you want to take your shot

at the best that there ever was.

Right now,

Laura has the best shot of beating Tia

with her skill set.

Laura has one weakness, one weakness.

And I think that Laura has a shot

to go head to head with her.

Whether she wins or not, I don't know.

Because when you're so obsessed over the

one thing that you need to complete your

career,

that comes with a lot of mental issues

that you have to overcome, right?

Like when Tiger wore red on Sunday or

Michael Jordan was in the playoffs,

those players knew that that person was

great.

And it was going to take an exceptional

performance to beat them.

And so Laura is going to have to

know when Tia's wearing that leader jersey

that she has the ability to beat her

still.

And that takes an extra to get there.

yeah this is it corey this is perfect

at the twenty twenty games jeff adler said

i don't care who wins the next event

so long as it isn't him and points

at matt frazier something tells me it

won't happen in twenty twenty six he

hasn't posted a video in two months

pregnant i don't disagree with you and

that's again i did not put this laura

thing in sharpie i put it in pen

Because there are other factors to this.

If Tia doesn't compete,

then it's going to be easy for Laura

to say,

I'm going to take another season of just

WFP, stay in Europe, do my thing,

collect my money,

do some Olympic weightlifting,

have some fun.

Because the CrossFit Games, the title,

I don't think matters to Laura.

It's beating Tia.

That's what matters.

Laura only beat her when Tia was like

six months postpartum.

Laura is great,

but I don't think she can take Tia

in twenty twenty six.

I'm not predicting the winner, dude.

I understand what you're saying exactly.

But as a competitor,

listen to the guys that played basketball

in Jordan's era,

like the Charles Barclays,

the Carl Malone's,

the Akeem Elijah Juan's.

the Isaiah Thomas's,

they wanted to beat Jordan.

They wanted to beat Jordan's bulls.

None of them did,

but that was their white whale.

That was what they wanted to go after.

Laura's great when the test is not about

being the fittest.

I completely disagreed.

I completely disagree.

The only thing that prevents Laura from

winning events is handstand pushups with a

deficit.

So.

So there it is.

Jonathan Ortega.

So I don't think Laura is that type

of competitor or else she would have come

after Tia this season.

She doesn't have the love.

I completely disagree.

I think she has the love for the

game.

Look at her on the floor.

Look at how pumped she gets when she

wins an event.

She has all the love of the game,

but she was grieving and she had rage

and was upset with CrossFit HQ.

That's why she didn't do twenty twenty

six.

As the further we get away from Lazar's

death,

the more that's going to wane a little

by a little by little.

And there's going to be a piece or

there's going to be a time where it's

going to be enough for her to want

to go after the white whale.

And that is Tia.

Laura is one of the fittest period.

I one hundred percent agree.

I guys, I.

Nobody goes into events and hurts

themselves like that if they don't have

love for the game.

She is at the tip of the spear.

She is one of the two greatest female

athletes in the sport.

And maybe you could put her on the

Mount Rushmore of ever.

She has stood on the podium, what,

four times at the CrossFit Games?

Winning once?

Mike DeVito,

I definitely understand what you're saying

now, and that makes sense.

But if it is her white whale,

she needs to put her issues with HQ

aside and show up.

And I don't think she has the mental

side.

A lot had rage and still showed up

and handled business.

You have to be mentally tough to overcome

adversity like that.

Some did, Laura did not.

And just like the commenter said earlier,

and I think it was Frida,

said that everybody grieves differently.

And that time can be different for every

single person.

Look at go back and look at the

twenty twenty four rogue invitational and

the interview style that Laura had with

the on the floor.

Mike, I think it was Kiki back then,

too.

Then look at this year and how she

was in her interviews with Kiki.

There is a difference in Laura from last

year to this year.

I'm not saying she's over everything,

but I'm saying that we're time does help

heal some wounds.

And her wounds just need to be healed

enough for the pros to outweigh the cons

of going to the CrossFit Games.

Exactly.

Train Olive.

She has a different air about her

recently.

I like this version of Laura.

Laura also quit on a workout in the

WFP.

I know it's just the WFP,

but Tia would never have done that.

She may not have quit.

She just may not have been able.

When Kobe passed away,

how many players showed up to the court

right after?

Apples to oranges, Jonathan.

Kobe didn't die on the court.

And Kobe was retired.

We're all making assumptions about Laura's

mindset and why she's making the decision

she is.

All the speculation doesn't make it fact.

I'm just putting a theory out there.

That's all.

Just for something to talk about.

Because love or hate her,

she is a phenomenal athlete.

And I think that people look at it

and they discredit her fitness or her

ability because she's unlike other

athletes in the space.

But that may be what makes her special.

Exactly, Sean in Oregon.

But then we wouldn't have a show.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Mike DeVito.

And I like Laura a lot.

She's a solid athlete in so many ways

that might not come across right now,

but I do.

LOL.

So it's just a theory.

It's looking at when I've like,

I've watched sports my entire life.

my entire life and I've watched greatness

and I've watched people want to over

become great themselves.

And the way to become great yourself is

to hang with those that are great already

or beat those that are great already.

You know, we have the phrases like,

the student becomes the master.

Things like that because, one,

of Star Wars, but two,

because the apprentice has learned enough

about being great that they overtake the

person who is currently great.

There are still golfers who talk about

Tiger like he's still there.

because of the runs he made,

and none of them can match what he

did on the course.

And they still talk about it.

And you know if they're talking about it,

it's in the forefront of their mind that

they want to be able to do what

he did to show that they're as great

as he was.

but you can't hang with those that are

great if you don't show up for the

event.

Jonathan, you keep banging this horse.

The horse is dead.

People grieve differently.

She didn't show up for one year.

We got to see what happens.

I mean, if you listen to Pat Vellner,

I think there's a chance he comes back.

And he was as outspoken against CrossFit

HQ as anybody.

Trade Olive,

if you look back at Tia in the

beginning to now as far as interviews and

such, I'd say she's less likable.

I think Laura is becoming more likable or

maybe personable is the word.

I think personable is the word.

I think that she has burnt some bridges

where there were people out there that

will never like Laura.

And that's just a fact.

It doesn't mean that...

She can't become more personable and maybe

convert some people over to likable.

But I think for some,

she's already burnt that bridge.

And that's why people don't think she,

I think that is why people give her

less of a chance to be great or

to be on the Mount Rushmore or to

be the person that can take down the

white whale.

Tia had a huge shift in mindset when

she started,

so there's always room for change and

growth.

Laura is very Eastern European from a

personality standpoint.

I don't disagree with that at all.

But it's food for thought, right?

It makes, to me,

as someone who does this every day now,

It's those storylines that make me want to

come watch an event.

And so I am hoping upon hope that

this theory of mine is true and that

we do get the opportunity where we get

the head-to-head Laura versus Tia.

Because I don't think there could be a

better matchup in the women's field at the

CrossFit Games than to see those two go

head-to-head.

They are very different culturally.

They are very different personality-wise,

but they're both great.

And I would love to see it happen

head-to-head one more time.

So as much as I'm just throwing this

theory out and I'm using past experiences

of watching other people who are great,

a lot of this is hope.

A lot of this is because I just

want to see it happen.

because it will be something that we would

talk about all the time on this show.

It's like the men's field has gotten to

where you can't pick a winner anymore.

Everybody is getting so good that we have

these epic battles,

even at a semifinal level,

all the way to the games, at Rogue,

at all the events.

That's what's awesome.

And that's,

we haven't had that on the women's side

because it's been dominated so much.

We need the villain for Tia.

And that's what I'm hoping for.

With that, guys,

I need to say one thing.

Last night on our show,

Carolyn said that she helped Lex with her

picks.

Lex wants to make it clear that

that Carolyn does not help her with her

picks on Heat One,

that Lex makes her own picks,

and they are hers.

And she has beaten John Young on her

own,

and she has done all the greatness on

Heat One because she's my white whale on

Heat One.

Every weekend,

that's the person I'm trying to beat is

Lex.

Alexis Detroit for you people out there.

And she is my white whale,

but she wants it cleared up that she

makes her own picks.

Carolyn does not help her.

They may discuss the event and the

athletes,

but they actually come up with different

choices on who will be in the heat

one.

So Lex wanted me to make that clear.

I've made it clear.

Lex is probably the king queen of the

heat one app.

And I'm just coming,

trying to come for the crown.

Thank goodness.

She forgot to put in athletes for event

seven and I beat her this week,

probably for the first time ever.

So.

I think Alex Kazan is going to be

trying to be the villain in Proven's

comments.

More information, please, Trent Olive.

I've seen HBO posts about Alex because

that's who she's with now.

Um... Um...

So anyway,

I didn't see any proven comments on

anything.

But again,

I don't dive into the comments very much,

especially when I'm busy,

which I have been for the last couple

weeks.

Lucy Campbell appears to be the future.

She has crazy grit.

think the only thing holding lucy campbell

back is she's an older athlete she started

this thing later than most um and so

her window is a little bit shorter than

some athletes

it's then some athletes are or is or

whatever um I love Lucy Campbell she is

one of my favorite athletes um every

conversation I've had with her has been

remarkable um and if you noticed she's the

superhero in the comic uh on the thumbnail

for this show today um and I think

she's awesome

But I think if Alex Kazan can stay

healthy,

she is going to be the future of

the sport as well.

Oh, yeah, yeah, she did do that.

I did see that.

I'm sorry.

You're very right, Train Olive.

There was a post about Tia keeping the

jersey and not giving it up,

and Alex said something like,

I'll be trying to take it.

True,

but she was an athlete from another

discipline.

I'm not disputing that, David.

I just think she's thirty.

So in the women's field,

it's very rare to go past thirty-four,

thirty-five.

I'm just saying the window's smaller for

her than it is for someone like Gazan

at twenty-four or an Emma Lawson at

twenty-one.

They just have a longer runway to pull

it off.

That's not Alex being a villain, though.

That's the type of fun trash talk we

need more of in this sport.

Yeah, and I think if you know Alex,

it was probably all said in fun,

but the Alex I used to know would

never have said that because her

confidence level wasn't where it needs to

be to be a champion,

and I think it is now.

I think I'm bummed that we didn't get

the full healthy Alex this season.

So we'll see.

I was showing bias with regards to age.

Thirty is so young compared to me.

Yeah, I mean, thirty is really young,

but for an athlete.

The athletes that go past thirty five in

pro sports, you can count on two hands,

maybe, you know, you have your LeBron's,

you have your.

Max Scherzer's you,

but they are not they are not common.

Aaron Rodgers.

To come back from that accident and do

what she did at Rogue is simply amazing.

It was.

She looked great.

I think she looked tired on Sunday,

but a lot of athletes did.

But I think the Alex that could train

fully would be less tired than she was

this week.

So I'd love to see her at full

conditioning moving forward.

Haha, I'm forty.

So to me, thirty is crazy young.

But as a CrossFitter,

even thirty is getting up there.

There are some people that have not been

hit by the age wand as quickly.

Emily Rolfe is thirty five,

and she has been competing until this year

when she suffered her first injury.

Sam Briggs famously qualified as a Masters

athlete in the individual field.

It can be done.

I'm just saying from second,

like Lucy finished second at the games.

Second.

That's impressive.

And she may be a monster in the

next couple years.

Her window is just smaller, that's all.

Emma Lawson's twenty-one.

She's got like fourteen years of working

to be the best.

five a.m squad club I'm getting younger

all the time there you go CrossFit

reversing age one workout at a time uh

Briggs isn't human I'm convinced she's a

cyborg that got left in the past after

failing to get John Connor yeah I think

there's a lot of speculation um

But hey, she's a firefighter here in Ohio.

And if my house is on fire,

I want her saving my ass.

I'll tell you that.

No questions whether she's fit enough to

get my house taken care of and my

family out safe and sound.

She's one of the coolest humans ever.

I'm going to finish on this.

I've said this on this show a couple

times.

When I was doing the open at CrossFit

Polaris, I was standing over my deadlift.

Sam had come in to work out with

Christy,

and she started yelling at me to pick

up the bar that it was not going

to move itself.

And then she got right beside me yelling

at me the whole time.

And it was a burpee deadlift workout in

the open a couple years ago.

Nothing worse than having Sam Briggs yell

at you to finish out that open workout.

I did way better than I ever planned

on doing,

but it's also one of the coolest moments

I've ever had in my life.

And I picked up the bar.

I picked up the bar.

So with that, on that story,

we're going to get out of here.

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